Ultima Online now free to play on(best mmorph PvP game ever)

[Bowen]

If anyone is interested in playing the best PvP game every made to date (where skill is a factor and not luck) Here is the info.

Ultima Online Info.

I will give you 3 links. One with pics of the game, One with info about the game. And another on how to play for free (I used to pay $20AU for 4 years on this game, its that good a game. (best ever player verse player game ever!)


Pics: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?setView=screens&gameID=12&bhsw=1280&bhsh=1024&bhswi=1260&bhshi=866&cookies=1&bhsw=1280&bhsh=1024&bhswi=1260&bhshi=866&cookies=1
Info: http://guide.uo.com/
How to play free (and download game, go to Join/Play Link): http://www.wtfman.com/shard/


Tell me if you need help, or any info.. We have a guild coming back to UO and they are looking for members to join & are willing to help train no problem at all.
8)

Bowen{Elite}
ICQ me if you are interested in playing (#9736707)

[FenR|R]

ill warn everyone now that anyone who advertises an amatuerly run shard , you should really ignore them

if you really want to experience UO the proper way..pay for proper content..not second rate crap, a few people cant do the same as a whoel team of developers
and the smaller comunities on whats meant to be a MASSIVE multiplayer game makes it pathetic

been there...done that

old news
move on

[Bowen]

That reply only shows to me that you have not played UO for very long.

After Lord British left the development team basicly the game went to the Roleplayers and the whinging newbies screaming out that they are being terrorised by bully pkers. They have nerfed most of the player verse player mechanics from the game not to mention spliting the worlds up into smurf land and a dead pvp land. If you want 1st rate dev teams working on more roleplaying items (like house enhancements) or you want to play on a FREE shard that is dedictated to pvp and uses what it wants from what has been developed from UO up to this date. (yeah the pay shard gets a dev team but the free shard uses what it wants from that code) Then you make the decision. 1. pay for smurf land. 2. dont pay for pvp world.

http://www.somewhatrandom.net/images/newserver.jpg
This doesnt look like a very small community to me. :lol:

Bowen{Elite}

[FenR|R]

and what about people who dont want to play pvp?


logic captain

[Yoda]

Bowen sounds interesting. If I knew where my UO cd was, I'd be tempted to jump in and give it ago, but I'm pretty sure wherever it is it's pretty much destroyed.

Rather than giving us a screenshot of what could be the only inhabitants of your shard, could you give us a number?

I dunno if I could get into it again, it's been a really long time, but yeah. It'd be interesting to run around in it again.

I think I got pk'd twice in the time I was playing UO, and yeah, I was sore about it, but it REALLY is part of the game. Unless it becomes completely impossible to enjoy the game due to pk's, which in the vastness of the commercial shard it might've become, I don't know why you'd take it out.

I dunno if I agree with some of the sentiments of the team working with this one, but if they are improving it (the code) then it would be interesting.

Ngz, this sounds like a stark contrast to your effort.

[cpd]

I've never played UO, but I'd love to give it a go. Just for kicks.

Sounds good though. Bah for monthly fees.

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

lol... i like the way you are so excited about this new thing when you've been able to play "free" UO for ages (and by ages i mean years).

im inclined to agree with ngz. In uo it takes you at least a month or so of solid character building (at least an hour or so every day) to have a decent character to go pvp with. And in the end the rewards dont meet the means. And saying that pvp in UO is based on skill is like saying the ability to not burn your bread when making toast is based on skill.

[Bowen]

and what about people who dont want to play pvp?
logic captain

Thats pretty bleeding obvious, go play something else. isnt this a LAN forum where PvP is a way of life? I think you are in the wrong place ngz.

Yoda: You dont need the original cds. follow the link i posted (How to play) and it gives you information on how to download the game. It is free to download also (it is not pirate version or anything either) This is 100% legal and legit

cpd: Yeah gfx arent everything. I would rather play something that looks like UO, but its playability is 10x better then most of the games out today I'm sure plenty of ppl have played the Ultima Series of games and can understand how good those games where.

Its Ultima Online that spawned all those other mmorphs that are out now like EverQuest and DAOC etc because of its success.

[Bowen]

Hef_Gargit]lol... i like the way you are so excited about this new thing when you've been able to play "free" UO for ages (and by ages i mean years).

im inclined to agree with ngz. In uo it takes you at least a month or so of solid character building (at least an hour or so every day) to have a decent character to go pvp with. And in the end the rewards dont meet the means. And saying that pvp in UO is based on skill is like saying the ability to not burn your bread when making toast is based on skill.

I think its you guys getting excited. I just mentioned a good free shard that maybe some locals can join and have fun on together. If anything, only replies of interest should be posted in response, not flaming. If your not interested then ignore the post. its that easy..


Bowen{Elite}

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

but its playability is 10x better then most of the games out today.

Bwahahahahahaha

Fkn n00bs

Here is a typical game of Ultima Online, during an hour WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENS:

what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
You failed to get any logs
what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
You failed to get any logs
what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
You failed to get any logs
what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
You failed to get any logs
what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
You failed to get any logs
what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
You failed to get any logs
what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
you get 5 logs. Your skill in lumberjacking is now 51.1%
You are getting attacked by [elite_wankerz]Joe_The_PK
You have died
Your corpse is being raped by [elite_wankerz]Joe_The_PK
[elite_wankerz]Joe_The_PK has stolen everything you spent the last week macroing to get.

oh and dont give me some shit like "BUT PVP IS COOL" because its not. it comes down to who has the "FUCK OFF AXE OF CASTRATION AND PK GLORY" and who manages to hit each other with it first. PvP is somewhat of a joke in UO, and to claim it is anything else merely proves how new YOU are to the game.

The only thing remotely interesting to do in UO is to poison a banana, hide out side brit bank, then drop it onto the ground, and watch some newb die when he eats it. NOW THATS FUNNY SHIT.

Hef{oMfG!!!111one_3L337_m0f0_69}

[Bowen]

Hef_Gargit]but its playability is 10x better then most of the games out today.

Bwahahahahahaha

Fkn n00bs

Here is a typical game of Ultima Online, during an hour WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENS:

what do you wish to use the axe on?
you begin chopping
You failed to get any logs
you get 5 logs. Your skill in lumberjacking is now 51.1%
You are getting attacked by [elite_wankerz]Joe_The_PK
You have died
Your corpse is being raped by [elite_wankerz]Joe_The_PK
[elite_wankerz]Joe_The_PK has stolen everything you spent the last week macroing to get.

oh and dont give me some shit like "BUT PVP IS COOL" because its not. it comes down to who has the "FUCK OFF AXE OF CASTRATION AND PK GLORY" and who manages to hit each other with it first. PvP is somewhat of a joke in UO, and to claim it is anything else merely proves how new YOU are to the game.

The only thing remotely interesting to do in UO is to poison a banana, hide out side brit bank, then drop it onto the ground, and watch some newb die when he eats it. NOW THATS FUNNY SHIT.

Hef{oMfG!!!111one_3L337_m0f0_69}

LOL.. you sound like you have been the brunt of most the pking Hef, I can understand the RP side of it. they just want to make a living but keep getting bothered. thats why they designed Trammel (so you can chop wood in peace) If you dont play mmorphs specificaly to PvP then you dont realy understand my side of it.

Killing newbs like yourself is not enjoyable and you will find is usually only done by kids wanting to grief. The real PvP fun comes from fighting opponents that are also in the game for PvP and are equaly skilled in this side of the game (then the game is actually challenging)

Poisoning an item (wether boxes or food) in UO and letting a newbie pick it up is considered griefing and at one stage of UO (some time ago) could of got you banned or punished by the GMs.

You have confused PKing with PvP I'm afraid. If you dont know the difference yet, then I really dont have the time to explain it any further to you.

[FG]Hef_Gargit: And in the end the rewards dont meet the means

What do you want as a reward? what are you expecting? What do you get out of CS if you dont win every single round? pretty much nada, and if you do win every round of CS at a LAN, what do you end up with? bragging rights is about it.


p.s. Why are you carring everything you have made in a week? never heard of a bank? You sound like you deserved to be pk'd for being silly enough to carry a weeks worth of item's/gold.

[RogueAgent]

I was one of the people who grabbed UO with both hands when it first came out, buying 4 copies for the internet cafe I ran at the time and promoting the hell out of it.
I always thought it had loads of potential, but I probably fell on the roleplayer side of things, mainly because I didnt have the time to devote to developing a character that could stand up to PKers.

I got frustrated with the slow character development. I spent some time foraging in the wild for reagants, killing rabbits & then other animals for thier skins. My character was a bit of a loner, practising alchemy with the reagants found and making money tailoring hyde into leather armours along with cooking the meat from the animals killed, helping out other travellers on the road by giving them free food & potions, or armour/clothes if they'd just been PKed and were naked.
There was a little bit of skill involved in avoiding the PKs who I couldnt compete with and that was still a fun part of the game I accepted.

But after all the time I put into the game, my character still basically sucked as I refused to macro and couldnt devote as much time to the game as the 12 year olds who played all day so I got bored with it and unsubscribed.

A year or so ago, I jumped into one of the first free shards to spring up and tried my hand at a little bit of roleplay GMing. I'd become a bird and spawn in creatures etc for players and leave books with plot elements laid out around the place. That had loads of potential too, but at the time the free shards codebase was pretty weak and I still struggled for time to commit to do it justice.

That said, I would be keen to try out PvP properly and always appreciate being able to join a team/clan/guild of people I know who can work together. But wont I be stuck with the same old problem of sitting for hours clicking meaninglessly on a practise dummy (or equivalent) before I could be useful with any chance of being able to compete ?

[Bowen]

That said, I would be keen to try out PvP properly and always appreciate being able to join a team/clan/guild of people I know who can work together. But wont I be stuck with the same old problem of sitting for hours clicking meaninglessly on a practise dummy (or equivalent) before I could be useful with any chance of being able to compete ?

Macroing is generaly allowed on the free shards RogueAgent (wether they dont have the resources to control it or they have taken that into consideration when setting up the skill gain system (time it takes to gain a skill).

As you mentioned gaining skills can be tiresome and I for one can definetly agree on that. I went the way of macroing and the help of guild members to work on skills, In this way you can generaly make a 5x GM character within 5days (my old account on the Oceania Server that i have since sold had all characters at 7x GM, which included 4 characters with GM resistance)

But generaly you only need the 1 character to PvP, with a good group of ppl that communicate well you generaly have a lot of fun taking on other groups of PvPers and there is always the griefers to annoy aswell. I would put it in the same arena as CS but in a different context. Definetly not any RPing aspects in our line of playing.

[Yoda]

I can't believe the admin's haven't said anything about this.

If your not interested in something, what's the point of being a tool driving this guy down, when all he's tried to do is promote a game of something?

I I just mentioned a good free shard that maybe some locals can join and have fun on together.

Bowen's is the first contructive post in fucking ages (maybe ever), and people are just giving him shit... it's fine to disagree and give an opinion, but just being cocks for no good reason is becomming a norm on this board, and not only is it annoying, it's fucking stupid.

I realise some of you have made some valid points, but please don't think that's any excuse to be complete assholes.

Bowen: I dunno if I'll end up playing it, but I'll certainly read into it. I played a ton of UO commercial, I was in a guild of like 5 people or something lol, and that was what really made it enjoyable.

Rogue: Your character was wierd (blue hat 'n all), and don't sell yourself short, you had been playing for a LONG time, maybe you tried to wear to many hats? which is a short comming of the game if anything.

[Lord Shaper]

I would give it a go since I've always wanted to play it and never got around to it due to DAoC but since I'm not playing that atm all I need it to pick up a copy and then make sure I can play it over dialup (tho I'm going to get broadband soon!

Yodes we can finally play a game together hehehehehe

[Yoda]

I played it over dial-up... and it's fine... not perfect, and you can't be sure how good it'll be, not being the official server, but yeah, it takes fuck all bandwidth.

[Lord Shaper]

ok then I'll have to find a copy!

[FenR|R]

i have a second age cd laying around somewhere

if you want it ...just fucking take it

[Bowen]

Bowen: I dunno if I'll end up playing it, but I'll certainly read into it. I played a ton of UO commercial, I was in a guild of like 5 people or something lol, and that was what really made it enjoyable.

Thanks for your kind words Yoda, as you mentioned about your small guild. I also feel the best way to play this type of game is a tight knit group of players that are good friends is the best way to play the game. You need to be able to rely on your mates to keep you healed and defend you at all times which is what you get in that situation. It surely makes for the best PvP groups also i have found.

Rogue, I was once also sort of a RPer in UO when i first started (without the RP type talk though) and i naturaly progressed into PvP because i found it more challenging and i found the friends you make in PvP groups are generaly closer then the usual RP guilds, because you go through alot more in the way of - sweat and adrenalin pumping action when fighting superior numbers and coming out the winner.

The only reason i left Oceania was because the number of people PvPing was basicly just a few otherwise i would have never left.

Last i heard the IPY free shard is stretched to its limits with 1k people on it at a time, there is currently a partition for EA to take over control of it because of its popularity and the fact it needs better hardware to support so many people.

[Bowen]

I played it over dial-up... and it's fine... not perfect, and you can't be sure how good it'll be, not being the official server, but yeah, it takes *** all bandwidth.

Something i have felt strongly about for a long time was the fact that anyone without a fast connection to the server would get owned very quickly (sub 50ms was needed to really compete at an equal level) and this was very bad (though i have known a couple of people on dialup that where amounst the best pvpers i had ever known because of skill) and that all mounts should be removed because anyone with sub 20ms was basicly almost unkillable because they could just run off when in trouble. (faster your connection the faster you moved)

To resolve this on IPY they have removed ALL mounts so basicly you can only move at foot speed and that is not determined by connection speed at all which is what they should have on all shards as far as I'm concerned to give the broad range of connection types a chance at pvp also.

Rogue: what shard did you play on when you first bought UO.

[FenR|R]

i hope your getting piad cus you realy seem to take a heavy heart in endorsing this free shard

and if it already has 1k plus people..why the fucvk do you need to ask people to play on it?


suc ha waste of precious life :)

..........blargh im so fkn bored

[Yoda]

I don't share your zeal for pvping, but yeah. ;)

Maybe he doesn't like randoms putting shit on him ngz?

[Bowen]

i hope your getting piad cus you realy seem to take a heavy heart in endorsing this free shard

and if it already has 1k plus people..why the fucvk do you need to ask people to play on it?


suc ha waste of precious life :)

..........blargh im so fkn bored

Funny you should mention that ngz. infact i have never played on it, and i definetly dont get any money from mentioning it.

Our core guild has just started playing on the shard and i was here to find out if anyone was interested in also playing, its a great game and it would be nice to have some locals playing also if there was any interest.

I didnt plan to upset you in any way by offering a way to play the game for free ngz. I assumed if someone wasnt interested in playing then they would simply ignore the post, but you have made it your mission to keep responding in a less then positive manner. :shock:

Not that I'm concerned as i find it quite amusing. :lol:

p.s. Where you at the last LAN ngz ? what nick if so?.

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

ok, im sorry. all of you go and play UO now

dont let a whiney bitch like me stop you. i mean, me and nigz havent played the game at all... we're newbies and all... i just like to wear the jesters hat.

[FenR|R]

i was the guy with long hair in the front row as you walked in the door

ill probably get a punch to the back of the head next lan..but oh well

[Bowen]

i was the guy with long hair in the front row as you walked in the door

ill probably get a punch to the back of the head next lan..but oh well

Grechin or something like that?

[FenR|R]

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr no

nigz is what people call me

front row being the row the admin tables was on

[Bowen]

Yeah I'm sure thats where this Grechin was (If i heard the name right, he had long hair also)

Well i was right infront of that group you said you where with. (I remember about 4-5 people in the location you mentioned)

No matter.

[RogueAgent]

...it's fine to disagree and give an opinion, but just being cocks for no good reason is becomming a norm on this board, and not only is it annoying, it's fucking stupid.

Well said Yodes, couldnt agree more. That is gold ! :D
I'd have to say that Bowen has handled the flak well. A lot of younger and/or less secure LANners would probably just shy away from posting (and I suspect they have been doing exactly that for some time)

Bowen, I cant even remember what server I started on. It was probably 4 years ago or something now. It was the same one that Yoda first played on (if he can remember ?). I remember it was before Oceania came out...or was it Pacifica ? I think the server was on the West Coast of USA, cos it would have been the one with the best ping at the start.....

I cant even remember the name of the more recent free shard (repressed memory ?) that I played on. I think that might also have been 3 years or something ago.

I can usually leave my computer connected all day these days, so there is a chance I could be keen :-

1. If I can get into a guild that can help me get started and is active in my timezone
2. If macro-ing is no issue and can be done 8 hours at a time
3. If I can get away with only 1 or 2 hour long sessions per week (apart from macro-ing) Probably around 6-7pm on a weeknite.

Then yeah, I could specialise in something and hook up with you occassionally. I'm a support player kind of guy which would suit since I'd have to relearn the game and have no experience in PvP. I cant commit a lot of time, but if this sounds reasonable, let me know.

[RogueAgent]

Hehe....mistaking Nigz for Gretchen is funny stuff tho ! :)

Bowen is the guy who stands about 7 feet tall.
Gretchen was down near the BBQ door on the same row as admin very close to where Bowen was.
Nigz was up on the row sitting directly in front of where I was (I think) nearer the registration front desk and all the other guys playing Wolf:ET and Halo ?

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

I'm a support player kind of guy which would suit since I'd have to relearn the game and have no experience in PvP.

It's easier than you think... just get someone to buy you a big fuck off axe and then double click on people when you're standing next to them.

I know it sounds hard, but the skill you need comes eventually... not like CS where you have to aim and things like that.... no skill required.

[FenR|R]

i wish gretchen would cut his hair..so i wouldnt be confused with him, its fucking upsetting

(no way im cutting mine)

[Bowen]

Hef_Gargit]
It's easier than you think... just get someone to buy you a big fuck off axe and then double click on people when you're standing next to them.

I know it sounds hard, but the skill you need comes eventually... not like CS where you have to aim and things like that.... no skill required.

Hef, you are talking about Melee's. (typicaly trammelits because they dont have the skill to use a mage properly)

You should have tried playing a dueling mage (gm wrestle/magery/resist etc) where instead of just wielding an axe and chasing someone crazy, you have to interupt spells, stop ppl running, heal through a spell dumb, avoid dieing because you cant cure the poison and heal fast enough etc.

p.s. lumberjack skill does not give dmg bonus on IPY shard, so no crazy axe wielding melee fighters :lol:

Rogue: yeah thats pacific you are talking about on the west coast, the guild I'm in are all oldschool pacific, i was chesapeak (for some reason ozemail was faster pings to chesy)

[Yoda]

Yeah, read through your shard site.

I dunno if it's my style, I think they've picked out some of the bad things to concentrate on, and some of there 'fixes' for problems are kind of silly, and tend to involve not including the functionality.

I was hoping your focus on PvP was just your preference, but I have no mind to macro a character for a day to get him to a grandmaster something, and then run around fighting people... you can say that there's strategy and tactics to it, but they can never be as complex as something like warcraft 3...

It'd be interesting to see, but I don't think it's my style.

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

You should have tried playing a dueling mage

yeah... *OR* i could have built a house IRL in the same amount of time. *OR* i could have started my own family *OR* i could have cut off my own penis and steam rolled it into a flat "Penis-Paper" that could then be used for origami *OR* i could join a message board, and flame some guys that have probably been playing a game longer than me and call them newbs even though i have no fucking idea who they are.

gg bowen

I think they've picked out some of the bad things to concentrate on, and some of there 'fixes' for problems are kind of silly, and tend to involve not including the functionality."

to paraphrase something that was pointed out in the second or third post of this thread: If you want to play an amatuer game, play on an amatuer run shard.

[cpd]

i wish gretchen would cut his hair..so i wouldnt be confused with him, its fucking upsetting

(no way im cutting mine)
Next time you hit town with him and he gets smashed do it then. Problem solved.

[Bowen]

i wish gretchen would cut his hair..so i wouldnt be confused with him, its fucking upsetting

(no way im cutting mine)
Next time you hit town with him and he gets smashed do it then. Problem solved.

And maybe do 1 of his eyebrows then there will definetly no resemblance or mistake of identity. :twisted:

[Bowen]

Hef_Gargit]I think they've picked out some of the bad things to concentrate on, and some of there 'fixes' for problems are kind of silly, and tend to involve not including the functionality."

to paraphrase something that was pointed out in the second or third post of this thread: If you want to play an amatuer game, play on an amatuer run shard.

Nah. if i want to play an amatuer game i will play CS. Atleast UO doesnt need a program running in the background to stop exploiting 24/7. :lol:

[FenR|R]

yeah because exploiting in UO is legal
DERRRRRRRRRRRRR
:)

[Bowen]

yeah because exploiting in UO is legal
DERRRRRRRRRRRRR
:)

I dont know any game where its legal/acceptible including UO.

Many thousands of people have been thrown out of UO because they exploited in some way before the problem could be patched out. So they rarely get away with it. Soon as the problem is discovered, logs are checked to find anyone that might have used the bug to obtain an unfair advantage over others in the game.

You will be hard pressed to find any game that hasnt been exploited in some way or another.

I dont think this game has been exploited yet ngz. maybe this is more of your style? http://www.davchg.com/220402.avi (for those that dont like to pvp)

[FenR|R]

oh i never said i dont like pvp

i jsut dont like pvp in UO :)

where its ...EQ / run / EQ / run / Mind blast / eq / run / meditate while your teamamte fucks some shit up


least thats what it was like back when i played..dunno what spells have taken over

[Bowen]

oh i never said i dont like pvp

i jsut dont like pvp in UO :)

where its ...EQ / run / EQ / run / Mind blast / eq / run / meditate while your teamamte fucks some s*** up


least thats what it was like back when i played..dunno what spells have taken over

I'm sure it wasnt EQ (earthquake) You prob mean EB (Energy Bolt)

But it does sound like you gave it a go, how long did you play for and how long ago if you dont mind me asking?

Generaly you do Explode/para/Explode/Flamestrike for greater success and less chance of the enemie making an exit. 8)

Here is a pic of the server information as i logged into IPY shard. (Free shard)
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~b0wen/free-uo.gif
More then i was even expecting to see when i first logged in.

[FenR|R]

i played for about a year on free servers

i usually had trader cars but i had a pvp mage

yeah it was EB for mage mage, but on that server itwas generaly guild based combat in which a lot of skirms would happen around buccs, 5 newb warrior try to smack you up a big fuck off eq and mb the mage they have with them,

i never got to play on offical cus i was young and didnt have access to the yahoo credit card shit

and nobody sold gamecards..so i was stuck with zulu hotel and i forget the original one but it was better

gm miner smithy and my gm mage....oh so long ago

i always preferred warrior chars in rpgs but the imbalance in uo was fucked...you needed a mage to be effective for anything

[Yoda]

to paraphrase something that was pointed out in the second or third post of this thread: If you want to play an amatuer game, play on an amatuer run shard.

EDIT: Originally much longer, and angrier. Suffice to say, that is not what I meant. I just don't think pvp is my thing, although I still kinda wanna give it a go, if you give me it at a lan or something I might check it out.

If someone wants reply to me about something in this thread, or potentially this board, grab me on irc/icq cause I'm fucking over it.

[Trojan]

I have tried to stay clear of all UO types games for one very good reason. I could easily see myself spending way too much time on them.

That been said yods comment earlier should he remade as it was spot on this guy is not forcing you to play or like it. if you have no interest in PVP games or this game Specifically then you may not need to reply to this post. If you are against it for what ever reason fine. Don’t dump on the guy. By the way it also might be worth noting that he is about twice the size of all the people attacking him. J :wink:

[Bowen]

I have tried to stay clear of all UO types games for one very good reason. I could easily see myself spending way too much time on them.

That been said yods comment earlier should he remade as it was spot on this guy is not forcing you to play or like it. if you have no interest in PVP games or this game Specifically then you may not need to reply to this post. If you are against it for what ever reason fine. Don’t dump on the guy. By the way it also might be worth noting that he is about twice the size of all the people attacking him. J :wink:

I definetly dont take online (like forums) issues into RL, unless people get personal which I'm sure anyone would feel strongly about. So dont bother bringing anyones size wether small or large into the subject. :lol:

We are all here for one thing and that is to have fun at LANs and to discuss gaming issues and such.

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

That been said yods comment earlier should he remade as it was spot on this guy is not forcing you to play or like it. if you have no interest in PVP games or this game Specifically then you may not need to reply to this post. If you are against it for what ever reason fine. Don’t dump on the guy. By the way it also might be worth noting that he is about twice the size of all the people attacking him.

Yeah, im sorry, i shouldnt be expressing my opinion on a game that i have played a fair bit. Bob knows i dont want to deter people from wasting their time. That was really stupid and selfish of me to try and go against what everyone else thought was "cool". I must learn to conform, regardless of what my beliefs and values are.

So here now i present to you all a contrast - What this thread would be like if people, who disagreed with what the original poster says, just shut the fuck up:

Poster1: Hey this game is awesome!
Poster2: Yeah it F********* rocks!
Poster1: Yeah! how awesome is it!
Poster2: heaps s*************** awesome~!!!!
Poster3: hey i like this game too!
Poster1: Cool!
Poster2: **** ******** *** ***** ***!!!!

Yeah thats really awesome, and has actually inspired me to start my own thread titled "best thing to do in real life ever" and write in it "Hey i love raping women IRL coz its fun. If you dont like to do this or have anything to say against it then dont reply". I'm glad i can finally come to a board and not get harassed for being a wanker.

The day where some completely random mong newb can come on here and make totally and obviously obnoxious and incorrect assumptions about the people who have been frequenting this site for around 20 times as long as him is a very sad day indeed. Maybe if this guy had been less of a mong about it, by saying "hey, has anyone else tried this? i think its really cool" instead of "hey this is the best it beats whatever you were doing by far", then maybe i wouldnt get so upset. A lot of the time its not what you say, its how you say it...

and lastly: who gives a flying pigs anus how big he is? If you're suggesting he solve his problems with violence rather than talking it out then i think you need to take a long hard look at yourself. I'm glad bowen has the sense to not take things on an internet message board so seriously - its changed my opinion of him. If he has the strength to wether this shit then he should go far in this community. bowen - gl hf.

[Trojan]

Hay guys the big size statement was just a joke notice the smiling wink. :shock: maybe the wink was not the right icon to express that sorry.

I was agreeing with yods who wrote “...it's fine to disagree and give an opinion, but just being cocks for no good reason is becoming a norm on this board, and not only is it annoying, it's fucking stupid.” While I may not agree with calling other people cocks I agree with the reason why yods made that post.

As well as rogue who backed up yods statement with the comments “Well said Yodes, couldnt agree more. That is gold !

I thought some of the posts towards Bowen were a bit on the unfriendly side. He was expressing his opinion and been shouted down for it. Not simply disagreed with. I was expressing my opinion to support Bowen’s damn fine post. I may have interpreted things incorrectly but previous statements from yods and rogue seem to indicate they too got the same impression.

I too think people should be able to express there opinions without it been suggested that they are making money from it or have some other hidden agenda as Bowen said ” We are all here for one thing and that is to have fun at LANs and to discuss gaming issues and such.”

[Bowen]

Hef_Gargit] Maybe if this guy had been less of a mong about it, by saying "hey, has anyone else tried this? i think its really cool" instead of "hey this is the best it beats whatever you were doing by far", then maybe i wouldnt get so upset.

I dont know why you would get upset Hef, its only a forum. And like you said we should all be allowed to express our opinions in how we like. You obviously did to me. :twisted:

When I registered for this forum I didnt notice any messages on the registration post saying "Dont come on to strong please." or "Tread lightly at the start." :lol:

Anyway, I'm glad i now have some of your respect Hef, that tells me that we are starting to understand each other better.

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

if i joined a messaged board and told its members that they were all less skilled than me and had no idea what they were talking about then i would expect to get flamed. It's called common sense.

That tells me you are a random mong.

There is this thing called ettiquite. Its awesome. Go join a golf club and play 18 in jeans and a T. Then tell the club pro that he doesnt know shit about golf clubs. Drive the cart all over green and complain that the people playing behind you are "up your arse" and keep teeing off while you're on the fairway. Thats what ettiquite is all about.

[RogueAgent]

Hef, I think you nailed it when you said :-

A lot of the time its not what you say, its how you say it...

I went back and read Bowens first post and the only think that I think you could possibly object to is that he says UO is :-

the best PvP game every made to date (where skill is a factor and not luck)

Which is just an opinion. I dont see anywhere where he denigrates anyone for not playing it or anything derogatory at all. The rest of his post is fairly informative.

If you have comments to make, then make them in a non-obnoxious way. Explain that you've had experiences with the game that were not that good (like I did) and put up a valid and CIVILISED arguement rather than just sprouting off calling him a
...random mong newb...
Just because you've been around on the forum a long time doesnt give you the right to be obnoxious toward everyone newer than you who you disagree with.
You seem to know a lot about 'ettiquette' without actually practising it :roll:

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

well i never had a problem with the first post bowen made, and if in fact you re-read my first reply also, you'll see that its perfectly civil.

im not going to sit here and defend anyhting else ive said. I dont feel i have to. If you want to let a bunch of newbs reign supreme, then i guess it isnt my place to stop you from driving away everyone else.

its kind of ironic that bowen says he should be able to express his opinion however he wants, but it seems he was the first to shoot someone down for expressing their opinion of his topic how they wanted.

[RogueAgent]

If you want to let a bunch of newbs reign supreme.....

Crikeys mate !? Dont you think that could be a little bit of an over-reaction ?

I'm just trying to encourage people to be a little bit more tolerant and give each other a fair go without ripping into each other at every opportunity.

Agree to disagree and let it go.....

[[FG]Hef_Gargit]

bwahahaha... i like the way you are telling me im over-reacting when bowen has replied to nearly every post in this thread that isnt by him.

its also hilarious that you pick up on my one spelling mistake when it appears troy uses a loaf of bread to type on his keyboard instead of his fingers.

I know you're trying to make an example of me, but im stil gunna call it the way i see it. viva con esto.

[RogueAgent]

Dude !?? WHAT are you talking about ?
What typo ? Do you mean the word etiquette ? I put it in quotes to emphasise our apparrently different understanding of the word, not to pull up a typo. FFS man, go look it up ! I spelt it wrong too ! I'm not one of those anal retentive grammar nazis ! We all make the occassional typo or spelling mistake.
I know Troy cant spell/type for peanuts, I dont hold it against him, nor anyone. What has any of this got to do with him any way ? Get over the Hef hates Troy thing. Its old news already. I'd have hoped you guys could have settled your differences in person by now :(

I'm not trying to make an example out of you at all. You've gone off the rails here making personal attacks on people and I'm just trying to (stupidly ?) settle things down.....now I'm the target :roll:
Bowen hasnt once resorted to personal attacks and to his credit, despite being provoked, has kept his arguement civil. I'm not taking his side, I just think your responses have been over-the-top and obnoxious.

...im stil gunna call it the way i see it...

Thats what concerns me. You are seeing things that arent there. :/

consiga sobre esto

[Bowen]

Hef_Gargit]its kind of ironic that bowen says he should be able to express his opinion however he wants, but it seems he was the first to shoot someone down for expressing their opinion of his topic how they wanted.

ill warn everyone now that anyone who advertises an amatuerly run shard , you should really ignore them

I would have called ngz's post the first "shoot down" myself. He did say everyone should "ignore them". Them being me or anyone that mentions what i mentioned at the beginning of this thread.

I did feel I was being either misunderstood or that persons where acting out of the usual forum etiquette that I'm used to. So i felt that i should explain myself a little clearer. The fact i replied so many times was because most of the messages generaly where aimed at my initial posting so i found it important to clear this matter up.

By the time this thread is finished my posting level might even get to veteran :lol:

[FenR|R]

im just sick of all the damn qouting :S

[Lord Shaper]

im just sick of all the damn qouting :S

really?

[Yoda]

Whatever the fuck you guys are trying to prove aside. Lock this thread, it's gone well past being productive.

[sw@t]

what joo talkin bout willis?

hey bowen, are you the dude that was in miladens class? went over to korea to play for that other mmorpg?

if so, hey

if not so, hey again, but not in the hey like, hey i know you. yes...

just tryin to lift tha atmosphere! :P

anyway, ill put my 2cents in, lately ive been watching some UO flash movies, and alot of the people that made em, like how the game was way back, and now they all dislike it :\

if anyone wants to play a decent MMORPG ive got a preview of a cool one.

http://www.scs.unr.edu/~ericf/C_D_MMORPG.swf

ciao :)

[Bowen]

what joo talkin bout willis?

hey bowen, are you the dude that was in miladens class? went over to korea to play for that other mmorpg?

if so, hey

if not so, hey again, but not in the hey like, hey i know you. yes...

just tryin to lift tha atmosphere! :P

anyway, ill put my 2cents in, lately ive been watching some UO flash movies, and alot of the people that made em, like how the game was way back, and now they all dislike it :\

if anyone wants to play a decent MMORPG ive got a preview of a cool one.

http://www.scs.unr.edu/~ericf/C_D_MMORPG.swf

ciao :)

Hey man, yeah thats me. finished Diploma, woot!

Anyway as you mentioned it was alot better way back and thats the version we are playing now :twisted:

For anyone that cared, i rubbed out the F...k word in my sig. but it still looks like the word. get it in paintshop. blow it up and you will see. :P

[Mr_Anderson]

i dunno if its just me

but with that sig if u can't read most of it doesn't just defeat its purpose?

[Gretchen]

i just read the the hole fucking thing (lol you think i dont read the forums)
wtf well anyway the hair problem is solved niggs dam nigger and btw thanks for the info ive wanted to play a game like that but cant be botherd to pay for it thanks